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Posted: Mon 11. Apr 2016, 13:46
by Nathan Hamilton
That's a good ideal Ron about hooking the whip to your belt. I need to keep that in mind the next time.

Posted: Mon 11. Apr 2016, 14:28
by Ron May
Nathan, I can't take credit for the idea.
This method was posted by Lasse previously.
Here's the posted thread.
So far I like it.
viewtopic.php?pid=39317#p39317

Ron

Posted: Mon 11. Apr 2016, 17:02
by Ben Varsek
@ Ron May:

You are welcome Sir!
You are defenetly ready for this!!!

I know that mixed feeling (while whipmaking) of beeing exited on one hand and frustrated on the other hand-dont let this feeling bother you.
You are ready!!!

Greetings Ben.

Posted: Mon 11. Apr 2016, 17:42
by Ron May
Ben, :)

Ron

Posted: Tue 12. Apr 2016, 12:05
by Ron May
I am still working on the handle. So far this upteenth time it's going better thanks to Bobbi's suggestion of numbered pairs.

I am also using old aluminum hair clips to help keep the strands organized. I remember my Mom using these on perm day. She and several ladies from the neighborhood would get together and perm each others hair. The smell would virtually drive me and my Dad out of the house and you could smell that smell for many many days afterward. About the time the smell would dissipate it would be perm day again.

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I'm almost half way through the handle. :)

Ron

Posted: Tue 12. Apr 2016, 14:31
by Bobbi Holyoak
Its looking good! My husband used to complain about perm smell, then I explained that it smells like money. LOL!

Posted: Tue 12. Apr 2016, 14:45
by Ron May
Bobbi, my Mom and the others would save money by doing it together.
I don't think they had any 'kits' and I have no idea of what is involved but it smelled
awful. How ever I believed it helped keep any bugs out of the house. :)
I was probably about 10 when these were last used.
I also think there was some girl talk going on too.

The clips do hold the strands nicely and with several strands going over several others it's kind of hard to orient the them to produce the correct sequence of Us and Os.
But this helps. That and the numbered pairs also helps not to get out of sequence. I thank you for that tip.

Ron

Posted: Tue 12. Apr 2016, 14:51
by Jessie Edwards
I kind of like the smell of perm to a mild degree. Like skunk...I kind of get a kick out of those musky smells---to a mild degree. That light whiff you get when you know Pepe is near, but not quite laying down the law...I love that smell. I like musky perfumes too as opposed to flowers or fruit.

Posted: Wed 13. Apr 2016, 04:05
by Brandon Lewis
Thats a good looking handle Ron. I cant wait to see the thong.

Posted: Wed 13. Apr 2016, 04:19
by Ron May
Thank you Brandon. :)

Ron

Posted: Wed 13. Apr 2016, 06:38
by Robert Gage
Ron, I feel sure that your patience and perseverance will really pay off on this one! :)

Posted: Wed 13. Apr 2016, 12:09
by Roy Partin
I agree with Mr Robert. Taking your your time to do it right is working out for. This is looking really good

Posted: Wed 13. Apr 2016, 12:49
by Rachel McCollough
Ron you ought to be proud of what you've accomplished on this, and all of that care and experience is only going to build!!!

Posted: Wed 13. Apr 2016, 13:50
by Ron May
Thanks Robert, Roy, and Rachel.
I am learning patience.
I am thankful for all the support, advice and tips my friends here on WB give. :)

Life is getting in the way right now so just when things seem to be going ok (knock on wood), I have to pause. :(

Ron

Posted: Sun 17. Apr 2016, 17:24
by Ron May
After about 2 weeks of trying , I've had to change the 'fancy plaiting' design to something simpler.
I have tried to make it work multiple times and it still would not work for me.
There were a couple of strands that were over , in my opinion, too many strands to be stable, so I changed to only diamond plait for the handle which is just about done.
It's time to transition to herringbone for the remainder of the thong.
I think I saw something from Bernie about going from 16p to herringbone.
I will try to find it and see if he explains how to do it correctly.
Tally Ho! :)

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Posted: Sun 17. Apr 2016, 18:04
by Robert Gage
Ron, my own rule is never to try to do something more complicated than I can do well.

That often applies in music: both amateurs and professionals will not infrequently put together concerts of music they like, but which is slightly beyond their abilities. Far better to do something simpler, and do it really well. By doing that consistently, their abilities gradually improve.

I'm sure the day will come (multiple whips down the road) when you'll be able to do that fancy plaiting with confidence!

Posted: Sun 17. Apr 2016, 18:11
by Ron May
Mr. Robert, I might have been a little ambitious for my second whip.
I really hate to give up on something but it's been almost two weeks worth of trying.
I will attempt this design another day on another whip. :)

Ron

Posted: Sun 17. Apr 2016, 18:21
by Ron May
This was the pattern that I was going for but about half way down there are a couple of Us and Os that seemed too long to be stable and I just was not sure if it would translate right or not.
I had no way of actually knowing. It just looked all wrong and I would start over again from just above the ribbon image.
It looks simple enough but I just got wore out fighting it.


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Ron

Posted: Sun 17. Apr 2016, 20:28
by Ron May
The Bernie video of going from 16 plait diamond to 16 plait herringbone show me how to do the switch .
It goes like this.
(start pulling from the left side, plaiting on the right) that's the side I was on all ready
(L) U1 O1 U1 O1 U1 O3
(R) U1 O1 U1 O1 U1 O3
(L) U1 O1 U1 O5
(R) U1 O1 U1 O5
(L) U1 O1 U2 O4
(R) U1 O1 U2 O4
(L) U4 O4
(R) U4 O4
(L) U4 O4
(R) U4 O4

Then plait the rest of the whip with the "planned" drops. :)

Ron

Posted: Sun 17. Apr 2016, 23:41
by Ron May
It was a smooth switch from diamond plait to herringbone. :)
The camera doesn't show it well, but it's all pretty straight when you sight down the length.

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Boy howdy, I sure need to mow the yard. :(

Ron