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Posted: Sun 2. Apr 2017, 18:42
by Sir Roger Tuson
Day 2 of my Underhand Crack practice. I've managed to reduce the extraneous body movement but not getting a good 'snap' each time, more of a 'whpffftt'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dByz9CW ... load_owner

Posted: Sun 2. Apr 2017, 19:20
by Robert Gage
Rog, that's already a whole lot more relaxed than yesterday! Well done!

You might try starting with your left foot about 18 inches further forward. That way, you'll almost have to use more of your whole body (including the knees) to pull the whip forward, rather than jerking it. At the moment, it's only your arm that moves. The rest of your body is rigid - hence the jerk - but this is far less pronounced that yesterday. Try Robby's technique of thinking about something else altogether when you do this crack, and see what happens!

Posted: Sun 2. Apr 2017, 20:11
by Sir Roger Tuson
Thanks Robert. I'll get out on Tuesday for another go.

Posted: Sun 2. Apr 2017, 21:36
by Ron May
That's looking better Sir Roger.
Might try holding the whip a little more behind you at the beginning with out any slack.
It might give you more leverage and you wouldn't have to jerk your hand forward to produce the snap. That works ok with me.

Ron

Posted: Sun 2. Apr 2017, 21:58
by Russell Jones
Sir Roger Tuson wrote:Ha! That's great Russell. My dog Ruby is very scared of any loud noises and looks at me reproachfully when I take a whip out into the garden. Kelso, on the other hand, couldn't care less and totally ignores me when I'm practicing. He loves Firework Night and runs around the garden trying to catch the pretty lights. Ruby usually hides under the bed :(
It's great how dogs have different personalities like humans :) My dog doesn't like fireworks. He wants to bark but last Guyfawkes he seemed to have simmered down a bit :)
By the way good improvement with the underhand crack. I agree with Ron, Just my humble opinion, but I think you would gain a lot with the underhand crack by "dragging" the whip from further behind you shortly before flicking it.
Good luck with your continuing progress :)

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 07:10
by Robert Gage
Russell Jones wrote: I think you would gain a lot with the underhand crack by "dragging" the whip from further behind you shortly before flicking it.
Russell, that's exactly what I meant by 'pulling' it forward.

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 07:52
by Russell Jones
whoops, my bad :)

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 08:34
by Russell Jones
Anyone familiar with the law of reverse effect will know what I mean lol.
It was kind of one of those days..... I was trying very hard to keep the plane straight though.

https://youtu.be/KnqsMDTHPms

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 09:04
by Robert Gage
Russell, that actually looks pretty good to me! Well done! :)

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 09:11
by Russell Jones
Thanks Robert :) I was getting a little frustrated because the whip goes a bit wobbly after the crack. (As you might expect)
I was trying to keep it nice and straight but it seems a bit impossible.

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 09:29
by Robert Gage
Russell, I have no doubt that with steady practice over the coming months (and years) it will gradually get smoother. :)

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 09:43
by Russell Jones
Woo hoo, plenty of time then :) I'm up for it!

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 18:32
by Ben Varsek
Thank you very much Russell, Robert, Ron and Matt !!!


Robert, you are right - I did jerk the whip forward insted of pulling it - thank you very, very much for your advice !!!


Sir Tuson, congratulations on your progress !!!


Russell, I share Roberts view - your practice video looks great !!!


I've tryed to follow Robert's advice on today's practice by pulling the whip insted of jerking it. From my personal feeling it did improve my underhand crack a lot and it fealt realy good to "let the whip do the work" insted of forcing the whip.
I still need to work on developing a muscle memory for the pulling motion in order to get constant results but it feels like a huge step forward to me :)


All the best
Ben

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 19:05
by Matt Henderson
Looking good Rog, although I echo what Robert says about standing with your left leg further forward :).

Great job Rus :).

As for my attempts, I only managed to get some quick video yesterday on the beach. There are two versions available: a silent one, and the other being a prime example of why not to lend your friends your camera. I'll put the silent version on here, and if anyone wants to hear the full, unedited video then PM me.

https://youtu.be/KgO-kkOlQYc

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 19:27
by Robert Gage
Ben, my pleasure!

Thanks for posting this, Matt - even th09ugh it does wobble about quite a lot! :)

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 21:09
by Matt Henderson
Personally, I'm blaming the light whip in the sea breeze :P. Shall look into that though, thanks Robert :)

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 22:12
by Russell Jones
I could be wrong, but my first impression was maybe he was commenting on the camera work?

Posted: Mon 3. Apr 2017, 22:16
by Ron May
Nice video Matt.
It's looking better. It appears that you are using less force and that's always a good thing.

Ron

Posted: Tue 4. Apr 2017, 18:58
by Matt Henderson
That does make sense, Rus, now I think about it :).

Thanks Ron, I'm always conscious of the force I'm using (or lack of, more to the point) now.

Posted: Wed 5. Apr 2017, 00:40
by Russell Jones
The North Island of New Zealand has been hit by the tail end of cyclone debbie in the last couple of days, causing some havoc. We had about two months worth of rain within 24 hours so unfortunately I have not managed to get out to practice :( (Itchy whip fingers!)
I might do one more clip when I can though.