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Posted: Sat 5. Sep 2015, 01:03
by Craig Frank
I went with five strands. I know it breaks the rule of twos, but it does look pretty good. Thanks for the info.

Posted: Sat 5. Sep 2015, 03:19
by Craig Frank
Second belly done. I still have to wrap it in sinew and hockey tape again and then it's on to the overlay.

Posted: Sat 5. Sep 2015, 04:43
by Robert Gage
[quote="Antti "Pokkis" Mäkinen"]The most optimal plait is one that has no gaps and is at a 45 degree angle. Making that depends a lot on the foundation, so it's best to decide on the plait counts when you know what you're plaiting over. It's best to let the whip tell you if your plait count is too much, not enough or just fine. Gaps in the plaiting mean too low plait count, and strands bunching on top of each other when you pull them at a 45 degree angle means too high plait count.[/quote]
Pokkis, that's about the neatest summary of good plaiting practice I think I've seen!
But 'Fiskars scissors'? They just look, to me, like the scissors found in most British kitchens - or am I missing something?
Craig, it's coming on well. As to the lump, I think - as a general rule when making almost anything - it's good to make a virtue of 'whatever happens' - unless, of course, it's so awkward that one wants to undo everything and start again. I certainly don't think that's necessary here....
Posted: Sat 5. Sep 2015, 05:06
by Craig Frank
Yes, they are Fiskars. Swiped them from my wife's sewing kit.
Thank you, Robert. I don't like the lump, but the increased binding is worth it, I guess. I think I'll do a double transition knot with a wire collar to help cover it.
Posted: Sat 5. Sep 2015, 17:02
by Guest
Progress
From what I can see in the photo, the binding is doing what it's supposed to be doing. Having a bulge over the transition area is pretty much unavoidable and isn't actually a bad look after all when there's a transition knot separating it from the handle. Even the original Indy whip has that sort of shape , just for other reasons.
Robert, Fiskars is a Finnish company whose most iconic product is those scissors. They're pretty damn good scissors too
- Pokkis
Posted: Sat 5. Sep 2015, 17:06
by Craig Frank
I think I have an axe sharpener made by them as well. They also own a knife company, but I can't remember which one.
Posted: Sat 5. Sep 2015, 17:08
by Robert Gage
[quote="Antti "Pokkis" Mäkinen"] Robert, Fiskars is a Finnish company whose most iconic product is those scissors. They're pretty damn good scissors too! [/quote]
They are indeed. That, no doubt, is why they're so standard here....

Posted: Sat 5. Sep 2015, 17:19
by Guest
Craig, at least the Marines use Fiskars E-tools, and as far as I know you might have those in the Army too. Really handy little things and can take unbelievable amounts of violence and abuse. Sharpened the edge on mine with an angle grinder, and since then it has been my best friend whenever I had to dig anything in ground that has tree roots in it.
- Pokkis
Posted: Sat 5. Sep 2015, 17:20
by Guest
Oh, and Fiskars owns Gerber nowadays.
- Pokkis
Posted: Sat 5. Sep 2015, 19:07
by Craig Frank
That was it. Gerber.
Posted: Sun 6. Sep 2015, 08:09
by Jeff Roseborough
As you've no doubt found out, lumps at the transition are a pain and sometimes unavoidable. It can be helped with cutting the tip of your handle to accommodate the core attachment. Another suggestion here is you are using hockey tape at a bolster. Don't cover the bump! A bolster is supposed to fill in gaps and helps define the shape of a whip. Bind tightly with sinew also to stiffen the transition.
Overall looking pretty good.
Fiskars makes some pretty good scissors and shears. Personally though I bought a pair of Wiss industrial shears model 29. 9' and as sharp as can be. They cut through leather like butter. For other whipmaking tasks I have a small pair of Fiskars 3' sewing scissors. Almost as sharp and hard to lose. That bright orange sticks out!
Posted: Tue 8. Sep 2015, 23:12
by Craig Frank
Thank you, Jeff, but I'll have to do that next time. Here's the last sinew wrap and the start of the overlay. I'm going to put on two transition knots and a collar to help cover the bulge.

Posted: Wed 9. Sep 2015, 01:43
by Rachel McCollough
Wahoo!! Is that... Camo????!! Wow that's looking good!!! That's going to be really nice!
Posted: Wed 9. Sep 2015, 02:08
by Craig Frank
Yes. Black and multi-can. Here's the finished overlay. The plastic dip for the heel knot foundation has to dry over night and then I'll do the three knots. It seems to crack really easy.

Posted: Wed 9. Sep 2015, 06:56
by Robert Gage
Craig, I love the colours!
It looks as if the thong tapers quite suddenly about a quarter of the way from the handle, but that may just be the photo - and it may not matter. That old saying, 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating' applies here: if the taper
feels smooth in use, then - you've got it!
I'm keen to see the finished product - and to hear how you think it behaves!

Posted: Wed 9. Sep 2015, 14:26
by Craig Frank
Robert - unfortunately, it does because that's where the first belly and most of the sinew wraps end. It it's noticeable visually, but I don't notice any detriment in use. However, that could be because I've never used a really good whip; just my own.
Posted: Wed 9. Sep 2015, 15:10
by Jessie Edwards
Craig, your whip looks very nice...thing is, if you touched my scissors from my sewing kit I would kill you. You never touch a woman's scissors if you value any part of yourself. What in the hell are you thinking??? I can only assume your wife adores you. I'm not sure my love for my husband is as strong to even fathom sharing scissors. Maybe if he was dying or on fire or something...I might consider...
Posted: Wed 9. Sep 2015, 15:19
by Craig Frank
Yaaaahhh...only one problem with that. I'm the only one in this family that sews.
Posted: Wed 9. Sep 2015, 17:22
by Craig Frank
I hate knots. Two down, one to go.
Posted: Wed 9. Sep 2015, 18:01
by Craig Frank
Finished. To quote Jessie and Gorilla, the best word to describe it is "meh".
