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Thank you WS

Very nice indeed, Rachel! And that looks like a specially beefy handle....

Looks really good Rachel!

Oh, hell yeah.
Sweet!

Ron

Thank you, Jyri and Ron
Mr. Robert, thank you! Yes sir the handle currently is. It will come down some, but I allowed a littlw extra until I knew exact measurements on the cup.

Very nice Rachel. I like the color of the wood.

Sven

That looks very nice, Rachel. Is that a different style english eye than those you have done in the past?

Thank you, Sven!

Scott, I appreciate it! No sir, that's my standard, or my version of an English eye:
A Twisted English Eye. The idea behind it is that it mimics the twisted tip on a cow whip. By it already having the twist before the English Eye, when you add a Twisted Taper fall (loaded or not) it allows a full uninterrupted continuation of the flow of kinetic energy without anything to slow it down. If you go from a tight twist to a fall that is not twisted it tends to flatten out the loop and lose some of the forward motion.

With a plaited tip, without the twist, it still does fine; it does best with a twisted taper fall as the tightness of the twist and the tapering push that loop on out there into the cracker.

That's what I have found with my little experiments and short experience

Rachel, I think I might have to try that on the next one.
I'll have to do a little research on how to do a twisted English eye and a TT fall to be able to see how to actually do it.
But it's definitely sounds like it would be worth it.

Ron

I should say every whip I make comes back to what little I've seen with cow whip motion and pattern:

Heavy toward the tip

Twist on the end

It has an unparalleled motion and performance, in my mind. So simply un-simple.

Example:
A bull whip is a cow whip thong with an internal handle that the tip has been cut off of: how can I add that tip back? Through the twisted taper fall.

Granted, it is a fixed thong, but the motion of the thong itself is regained by adding back the twist to the tip.

-an Australian style stock whip is like the type of cow whip where the thong sits outside the short cup and often has a leather "washer" placed between the thong on the tie strands and between the thong and cup of the handle to prevent too much wear. The thong being outside the cup in this manner acts like a hinge, similar to the traditional stock whip. Many of these have longer handles..... Similar to a traditional stock whip!

Did I mention whip history is really cool?

Ron it absolutely is. I like it. It is accurate as well! Easy to make the fall weighted, too.

Rachel, I was thinking of doing this for a bullwhip, ending with a twisted English eye and adding a TT fall.

(sorry for the hijack)

Ron

Ron May wrote:Rachel, I was thinking of doing this for a bullwhip, ending with a twisted English eye and adding a TT fall.

(sorry for the hijack)

Ron

Looks to me like you're right on topic, Ron
I think you'll like it! When you go from your twist into 4 plait it must be very tight or it'll hinge.

Looks very cool Rachel.
Thanks for sharing

Gio, Thank you very much, my friend!

Your welcome

It looks great Rachel! Do you cut all of your handles more or less the same or does it depend on the whip?

Hi Tyler, thank you! I mostly cut the Amper Style and Cow Whips very similarly depending on the weight of the thong and type of wood.
Of course the stocks and a grip are done differently.

Rachel, this Amper style in progress looks outstanding - thank you very much for sharing those pictures!

On the last picture, the handle looks like it has a natural red color which is going to be a fantastic match for the color of the thong - I'm looking forward to see the final result!

All the best
Ben

I've posted this whip before, but I will post it again- I have it listed on my website for sale, under Whips Ready To Ship.








For sale, 4' 12 plait kangaroo hide stock whip. This is my personal whip, it is also my first leather whip. While the overlay strands are not beveled, it is solid and moves good. It is made on the same basic principles I build all my whips by. Twisted Taper core and twisted taper belly ends. 18" hand cut Bocoté handle.
As pictured, I will make a new fall to go on it. Extra artificial sinew crackers.
This whip is not numbered. It has my initials on the handle as it is a first unnumbered prototype.
$185 USD plus shipping.
There is a "buy it now" button on my website, The proceeds are for something special. You can read the details there.
http://www.wolfcreekwhips.com/home/off-the-shelf