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I am struggling with the exchange.
If I wait a fraction of a second it changes all right, but if I do it immediately after the crack it flops behind me and the forward underhand throw wants to nip the back of my calf.

I'm still working on it but it's not progressing as well as I would like.
It will take a lot more time for me.

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I found Robby's advice about cracking low with the underhand crack very useful in giving me enough time to exchange and then bring the whip back down into the starting position on the other side. Also Ben's advice about "clapping" was helpful too.
My problem lies with the opposite hand, I am finding progress has slowed a little. I'm hoping for a decent session tonight to isolate and improve on that.
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Thanks for reminding me of that tip Russel.
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Post by Russell Jones »

Hi everyone, I got some more practice in tonight with this exercise. I think it's slowly coming along but I need to build up strength and muscle memory with my left hand pretty quickly.
https://youtu.be/3L5Is_TmHyA
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Russel, it's looking pretty good.
I did notice that you would hit the back of your calf occasionally.

That's what I'm doing too. I can't seem to get away from it.

If the change is a bit after the crack it's not much of a problem, but if it's right after the crack the next throw will hit my calf.

I know it's all about bringing the whip back but I have yet to find a correct speed or path to make it land straight behind me.
Which is the main problem.

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Rachel, my compliments to Hagen and Garret - they have impelmented Robby's advise very very good on their new video!

Ron, isolating the movement of "brining the whip back" while trying to keep the thong streightened out as much as possible (on it's way back) might help with the calf issue.

Russell, your practice session looks fantastic and the techniques which you are doing with your left hand look very controlled!

All the best
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Thank you Russell, Thank you Ben. They are trying!
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Thank you Ben, I'll give it a try.

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Post by Russell Jones »

Thanks Ron and Ben.
Ron I agree I have trouble with the placement after the crack with my left hand in particular. I'm going to have to work on that.
Like you said about yourself I think it will take a lot more time for me too before I get fluent.
Cheers :)
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This afternoon's practice showed that if I wait after the crack it goes ok, but when I try to change hands nano seconds after the crack, I will graze the back of my calf on both sides on the forward underhand throw to continue the flow of the drill.
I have no idea as to why this happens but I'm working on it.

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It's good to hear your feedback on your progress Ron. I have similar issues but mainly with my opposite hand not improving fast enough for my liking.
I've been practising a lot lately and took a break for a couple of days. I'll be revisiting this after work today.
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Today has been a cold drizzly mess so it was the Stick Of Death practice.
Amazingly it cracked every single time.
Of course I had to apply the sound effects. :)

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Ron May wrote:This afternoon's practice showed that if I wait after the crack it goes ok, but when I try to change hands nano seconds after the crack, I will graze the back of my calf on both sides on the forward underhand throw to continue the flow of the drill.
I have no idea as to why this happens but I'm working on it.
Ron, on the basis of what Robby has told me (more than once) I strongly suspect this problem has to do with the angle of the handle. It sounds as if you're (unconsciously) letting it point behind your back, rather than straight out behind. Just a suggestion....
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Thank you for that tip Mr. Robert.
I'll focus on that and see what happens. :)

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Sad to say, it's going to be another stick of death practice today.
It's totally miserable outside. :(

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Robert is right. When people think - or better feel - that the whip is straightened out behind them in a right angle to their upper body, it is actually in an angle behind their back. Try this: Look forward and bring the whip behind you. Let it fall to the ground. Then wait for two seconds and turn around. And you will notice, that the whip rolled out straight. But in an angle behind your back... In that case you have to synchronize your feeling with what the whip really does. And if I know something for sure, then it is that you will master this!

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Thany you very much Robert and Robby for your helpful advise!

All the best
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Thanks Robby, this is going to be very helpful.

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Hagen and Garret say that is what they are finding:
Try it close to a wall. They say it is helping to keep from hitting themselves and is helping to see when it is straight. Pushing the tail of the whip out and away when it falls behind them, but between them.and the wall...
A real but imaginary Big Ben clock vertical next to them:
The push away from the body but resistance to keep from hitting the wall seems to help in their mind line it more straight behind them.
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Rachel, please tell Hagen and Garret that this is exactly the advice that Robby gave me in Munich last year! :)
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