New Adam Winrich Video (interesting) (Page 1 of 2)

Jyri, I agree! I will certainly try this first before just disagreeing. For me, I notice paracord does shrink a little when wet with bracelets I have made in the past, but nylon also has quite a bit of stretch (I've seen up to 40%). Of course we will never put that much linear stress on a whip, but the force exerted after a lifetime of cracking will surely negate any tightening that might have happened on day 1 of waxing, or even putting in hotwater. In this case, we are back to tight binding. The argument I could see is when Tyler was using dacron, which is polyester and has minimal stretch (mayb 5%). Some cord even has a polyester mix, which really is a brain twister. It will be interesting to do some side by side comparisons for sure.

I agree with Ron even though I have never build a whip myself. I have been cracking the same two nylon whips on almost daily basis, and the ony thing that happend is, that one of them has become slightly more open at the fall hitch. Not much, just a little.

The flow is still fine and they both behave like when they was new (after cracking in). As the whips are made of a member of this forum I guess, that binding i a big part of the long time performance of the whips.

I have also owned a whip without binding - and it got looser almost from the first crack until it was totally useless.

That was 2 cents from me.

And I have fixed 30+ year old nylon cow whips that have no binding and have plaited bellies.  The key is the twisted taper core in them which provides a solid base to plait over. 

Plaited bellies are just fine.

Each to their own, if it works for him.  I mainly mean there is indeed nothing wrong with a plaited belly or two.  Good solid base to plait on, whatever the style of whip... Whatever needed to acheive that is just fine as long as it is quality material.

I only mean I disagree with no transition binding on a bull whip, unless you just want that fast cracking.... That's absolutely up to the buyer and maker. 

I fully and strongly disagree with not gutting the cord for core strands.  And not plaiting around SOMETHING at the tip in a 4 plait.  I strongly disagree with that.  Giant rubber band... Like an accordion folding up and stretching out.

I've actually put binding on every whip so far...maybe I shouldn't? lol Snake whips get less than bullwhips, and stock whips even less, but the 3 stock whips I've done all have a little bit...maybe not even enough to add rigidity, but I did figure it might help flow and prevent kinks where the core ends. After starting with bullwhips, it was too weird not to add some sort of binding.

Bingo.

I would add, speed.

Ron

Maybe his whips made like that are good, but the question is for how long?

The way i see it, if you are going to make a whip, or anything, do it once and make it well.

Binding whips makes them better so why not make that invesment, all it cost is some binding material and elbow grease.

Making customer happy for few weeks is one way, making customer happy for years is the hard and right thing.

And keep in mind that i have no expierence of his work so i'm not able to say what his whips are in reality, but not doing something to make product last longer does not seem good in my eye.

Sparky, spot on.
He sold the pair for $400. If these had been made by a reputable whip maker that's about right or maybe, for others, a little low, but for his quality of whip, that's way too high.

Ron

Scott

Overall I like Adam, but not for his whipmaking methods.

I have made two thongs based on nick's latest video which is in turn based on Adam's stockwhips build plans, and while I agree that the strands don't tighten, I've found that before waxing the thong is soft and malleable (at least on my first one, the second thong I plaited tight like I normally would) and after waxing it is as hard as any other of my whips. Which I attribute to the wax filling all the space inside the thong, if you get what I mean.   
And yes his prices are quite high for the time it takes to make one. It takes almost half to a third of the time to make a thong using his methods than using the ones I've learned here. Anyway, if it works for him, great! Though I agree with Rachel on the binding and 4 plaiting over nothing.

Collin, for me I bind snakewhips the most, as they don't have a solid handle.