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Topic: One on one whip swap for Erik

I have been kind of flying through this one without taking a lot of  pictures, mainly because I had an idea on the last whip and I have been seeing if it works and I have been pleasantly surprised so far.  I'll try and take more from now on smile

I started with a .25" steel rod and filed the end down to accept a core of 5 pieces of paracord forced into each other. The outer layer is the full length of the whip but inner pieces are staggered at 5" from the handle. The rod was drilled for the hook and the cord bound on

http://i.imgur.com/AjA4cqJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2bIISoY.jpg

The real meat of the idea I had is here at the end of the 4 plait on the bellies. Each strand is pulled into the centre strand. I then bound this to set the strands sitting nicely and to transition the stiffness where the plaiting ends. Seems at the moment to be the best belly I have made so far. This belly was in 8 Strand

http://i.imgur.com/7mgBPa9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WRmOsQl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xWxsZPv.jpg

Here the latest belly, rolled but not bound in 12 plait and the end finished in the same manner

http://i.imgur.com/ssEZsDm.jpg

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Charlie - looks like a good start.  However, I'm confused by your core.  Five pieces forced into each other??

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Very nicely done on the ends of your bellies! I've been thinking about ending it similar, but only with 2 at a time since I don't have the ability to put 4 in one haha

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Awesome! This is very exiting to watch the progress - to say the least! Ending the bellies that way is pretty innovative, looking good so far :]

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Charlie, this looks good - and the idea sounds good, although I can't quite visualise just how you force (or pull) the strands into each other. Further progress photos eagerly awaited! smile

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To elaborate a bit on the core,  I have been using four different gutted sizes of Paracord.

For the smallest it will melt onto a welding rod nicely, the second will too but also needs a dab of superglue to make it strong enough. The third and fourth layer were pulled through with a b50 bowstring loop. The last was tough, I doubt I will do it again on anything but personal and special whips. I went in through the sidewall  and used the doubled wire to pull the rest of the core in. During the tougher sections it helps to keep the inner strands under tension and the outer bunched a bit as it goes on. I'll be doing a similar process for the fall so I'll get pictures for this then.

http://i.imgur.com/wPjfUmc.jpg?1

Here is the 12 belly rolled and bound, I'll detail the end of the core on the next belly, 16 strand.

http://i.imgur.com/MkYh0TU.jpg?1

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Thanks for the info, Charlie. That all makes sense - but I must say I admire your patience! The result looks brilliant!  smile

'Less is often more!'

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Charlie, the taper is super.
This is looking very good.

Ron

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Thanks guys, the idea came from the problems on my last whip. I decided to design this one from the tip of the overlay back through to the core, paying particular attention to the last drops in the belly and overlay and accounting for the dropped strands.  I have been thinking to drop to single diamond in the 8 plait of the overlay as I think this will allow me to line the 6 plait seams up and avoid an un-balanced plait at the end of the whip.  We'll see if I can pull it off though smile

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Ok so I took some more pictures showing the end of the bellies and how I have been working the ends in.


I clipped back all of the threads apart from the last worked strand at the point where the core becomes empty from the last strand of the previous belly.

http://i.imgur.com/A8qU1zB.jpg

Used a fid to open sidewall of core about 6" down

http://i.imgur.com/VqIUc2t.jpg

Used doubled wire, with the strand melted on to draw it in to and out of the wall of the core.

http://i.imgur.com/oqajAkl.jpg

Crap photo but I then bunched up the outer cord to cut the inner at about 3.5"

http://i.imgur.com/KPWuYTj.jpg

4 plait locked off

http://i.imgur.com/oueHHui.jpg

The next strand is then drawn in ahead of the first

http://i.imgur.com/XBOC9Mm.jpg

then the next etc.

http://i.imgur.com/TxS8fXo.jpg

Here is the final belly bound and ready for the overlay

http://i.imgur.com/QZxRbmU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iF6ZsgD.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/XMPYR0e.jpg

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Golly, Charlie, that's seriously impressive. I admire your patience - and your visual focus - for such fiddly work. But the result looks splendid, and I should think is rock solid. Thanks for these photos!

'Less is often more!'

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Fingers crossed it works out, its not too bad patience wise it's not so fiddly when you do it and it makes it really consistent to bind. I will use a variation on this whip for sale eventually but this is the whip I want to make for myself after this one.

I know it will be heavy but it shouldn't be too bad weight wise, there is no lead in there and the handle is pretty slim.

I have done short stiff transitions with not too much sinew because of the number of layers but each layer should transition nicely in stiffness but let the loop form early and the weight as far forward as I want to go to get the drops nice at the end, it actually drops its first strand at 18" but on the overlay there will be 2' or so of 20 plait, I find its much easier to let things bunch a little before dropping especially as the overlay will have two strands running the whole time underneath. The last two drops of the overlay will be pulled into the core and the last inner strand will hopefully end in the hitch knot so that its dropping mass right to the tip

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That's very interesting and thank you for sharing. smile

Ron

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Thank you guys smile

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Exciting smile!! Looking good ^_^

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Ohhhh I see! I thought you were literally jamming 4 strands all into each other tongue This way seems much more productive~

The whip is looking really good!

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These techniques are fascinating. Wonderful to see such innovation.

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Thanks guys,  I am surprised at how handy that bent welding rod has become smile