Nobody will ever have control over this forum. Except me and the admins. In this case it is only about the name of the thread. I was more than happy to do that, because that way everybody will find it even faster. The basic thing was this: We had the whole whip issue. Dan Trout explained to me that this was a whip for a child for "only" 50.00 USD. Well. If you make a whip for a child, charge more than 50.00 bucks or don't do it the way it was done. Dan Trout told me that the whip was heavily abused. That was the reason why it broke.
I thought it would be the best to keep the whole story here. I was not interested in spreading it over the whole internet. Because of the potential damage it could/would do to Bobbi. But... Dan Trout did not only post it on his Facebook page. He reposted it on other whip groups, too. And guess what - "GrandMaster" Ron Lew did the same. And that way the whole thing became a landslide. In the meantime I even don't care for that. This is not my or our problem. Sometimes it would be better to think about the consequences, before you push the big, red button. Right? Anyway - it is what it is. We have a whole lot more visitors/guests in this thread than ever. Thanks to Dan Trout and Ron Lew
But there is a thing, I don't like. Which I don't accept.
Dan Trout wrote me this:
I know that not one menber of the RoT ever contacted any of Bobbi's customers. And here is my question to Dan Trout:
all other things aside - who contacted Bobbi's customers? That would be an absolutely No Go
and it would result in excluding the respective person. I've asked the RoT members and they
all say they never contacted any of Bobbi's customers.
That means, that somebody lies.
I know that a member of the WB forum, Morten (he's from Sweden) contacted a friend of his and recommended to him that he should ask what exactly is in the whip he was going to order. He is nor ever was a member of the RoT. When one friend recommends to another friend that he should ask for the exact specifications, that is there private thing and more than okay. You can read about that in the WB forum - it's in the public area, by the way.
So - please - name me the members of the RoT who contacted any customer of HolyOak whips.
As far as I know, they all have waiting lists. Long waiting lists. And each of them assured me that they did
not contact any of Bobbi's customers. And that leads me to the last, yet most important question:
How could members of the RoT have the contacts of Bobbi's customers?
Please understand that this is a huge and very serious accusation. I really hope - for you and for Bobbi - that you have names you can give me. And not something like: "I don't know. I was only told". Because if you don't have names, the whole thing becomes slander. And that is where the fun ends.
Names. Now. Please.
Thank you in advance,
It's like I wrote. When a friend talks to another friend and recommends to ask for this and/or that - it is a private conversation between friends. But when Bobbi HolyOak changes this to "Members of the WB Ring of Trust" contacted my customers", it is a lie. A serious accusation. And due to the fact, that Dan Trout got this information from Bobbi herself, she's involved in the whole thing.
Morten - you did nothing wrong. Absolutely nothing. At least Bobbi assured your friend, that his whip will be made according to the highest standards, right? No worries at all.
I don't think that there is much left to say. The story is all over the internet now. Wasn't me. The image damage that happened and will go on, was started by Bobbi herself and Dan Trout. The only thing I want now, are the names of the people who have been contacted by the members of the RoT. I know that this was a misunderstqnding. But before I post such a thing in public, I have to be darn sure about it. I'll keep you updated on this.
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