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Topic: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Ok whipsters, here we will practice the Victorian Cutback.
It will go from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017.

Here's Robby's tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhGL53tfBcM


Happy crackin' . big_smile

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

The other day I went back to this one and it was very frustrating.
All the hard work just getting a crack from the whip seemed to have gone out the window.
Bring it on smile

In vino veritas

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Ron, this is the crack I had so much trouble trying to do last autumn in Munich. Robby was very patient, but I never did get it!  tongue

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Mr. Robert, it's not an easy one to do.
It combines timing and a handle roll to reverse the direction of the thong, which is easier said than done.

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Today's practice was productive, but only about 35% of the attempts were successful.
It's the timing and being consistent in the delivery to be able to rotate the handle at the same time in the throw. That's proving to be difficult.

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

It is a brisk yet fine autumn morning today. I got some practice in with Keyzer.
Threw in a little combo at the end practising establishing flow with Vic.   https://youtu.be/RMPJpxpAB4c

In vino veritas

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

That's looking very good.
Really nice combo at the end.
Good job!

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

This afternoon was a huge step backwards.
Only about 30% were even a poof with a couple of cracks thrown in.
This is a tuff one for me.

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Thank you sir.
I need to iron out some things with the cutback but I like the change of direction and pace it offers.
Have a good day friends smile

In vino veritas

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Ron, I find this one hard too.
My findings were like you mentioned, timing and also the speed you put into executing the wrist roll. They feel like the primary factors.
You may already know this but I found the crux of getting a crack from the Victorian Cutback is when you bring the whip up to the 10 o'clock position you can for a split second feel the whip at it's full extension.
That is the moment you want to roll your wrist.  At least that is how I have narrowed down the timing.
Best of luck with your future practice.

In vino veritas

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Here's what I did on day one. I just now had a chance to upload it.
https://youtu.be/pTC0bmWua7k

Boy is this really hard for me. I'll get it though.

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Hey Ron,
Thanks for posting the video.  Just trying to help here as a humble observer I noticed that that you appear to be bringing you arm up facing the wrong way.  If you watch Robby in the video he says you need to bring your arm up like the underhand crack - (Palm facing forward)
It definitely would make it easier to perform the wrist roll that way (which is what I find the hardest)
Also if you could bring the whip up and delay the 'cutback' for a little bit longer I think that might produce better results...
Best of luck

In vino veritas

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Thanks Russel, I appreciate your observations.
I will focus on that in tomorrow's practice.

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Ron, that's not a bad start at all. It's better than I've ever managed with this crack!

I noticed, however, as Russell did, that you might pause a bit more before the 'cutback'. I think the whip needs time to 'relax' before it's reversed - but I speak here as an incompetent!  tongue

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Thank you Mr. Robert.
I think you and Russel are right.
I really do appreciate your observations and insight. smile

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Russell, your technique looks very good - great job !!!

Ron, your video is once again a very good example for efforless and relaxed whipcracking (love it) !!!


My practice during the last couple of days has been a little frustrating - I haven't been stuggling with any other technique as much as I do with the Victorian cutback. My major problem is that I'm not getting the reverse movement right. Instead of doing the reverse motion in a vertical plane I'm very often going a bit "sideways" with the handle which in the end always results in a unwanted arm wrap. In order to get the hang of the reverse movement I've been practicing the reverse motion with a stick which worked fine. As soon as I tryed to do this crack with a whip, my stick practice seems to have vanished sad


Well - at least I've had three attempts on todays practice that felt "right" (clean crack an no uncontrolled whip motion/arm wraps).

All the best
Ben

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Ben, thank you.
Your diligence is paying off.
That's what I call progress.
It might have been the stick practice which helped with your later efforts, but I really think it's the perseverance.

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Thank's Ron smile !!!

Getting a little progress on todays practice fealt like seeing a light at the end of a tunnel - especialy after those frustrating previous practice sessions.

All the Best
Ben

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

It really does reassure me to learn that others find the Victorian Cutback difficult. I certainly do!

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Re: The Victorian Cutback from 4/7/2017 to 4/16/2017

Thanks to Russel and Mr. Robert, today's practice was a lot better.
Holding the handle with my palm to the front was much more successful.
It also makes the handle rotation seem easier.

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.