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Today's practice was a step back kind of day.
A lot more "poofs" than cracks.
But even that is progress. smile

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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It looks quite simple, but is in fact another exercise in muscle memory!
Luckily that never gets old!

In vino veritas

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I may be quite wrong, but I though that the Cairo Crack (or Cairo Flash) was composed of three cracks, thus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbMg2hnYLB4. But I've just checked out the scene in Raiders, and I'm afraid I find it hard to see anything coherent about that Indy does there....

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I agree with you Robert.

I have the clip here from the scene of Raiders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8F623GSfNU
The Cairo Crack starts at about 0:46. I put it in the comments too.
It looks as though he does two Cairo Cracks to me.
The second one he also doesn't bring the whip up from the front, he brings it over from behind him, so I think perhaps he would have been lucky to get a crack at all judging by the way he throws it. Probably the sound of the crack was put in later.
I'm just going by the original post Ron put up of Adam Winrich as the base.
It's quite smooth and more refined than the one from the movie.

In vino veritas

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Russell Jones wrote:

Probably the sound of the crack was put in later.

Russell, I strongly suspect you're right.

And I also think it's the fans who've invented the so-called Cairo Crack. I'd be very surprised if Harrison Ford wasn't just slashing about! Call me cynical....

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I should have said that I believe the only whip-crack that we are focusing on in this challenge is the variation of the circus crack where you bring it up and instead of bringing the whip down you throw it out in front then bring the whip around and behind you.
However I couldn't resist having a go myself!

In vino veritas

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And I also think it's the fans who've invented the so-called Cairo Crack. I'd be very surprised if Harrison Ford wasn't just slashing about! Call me cynical....

Yes I think that is definitely the case for the "Cairo Flash"

In vino veritas

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Ron May wrote:

Today's practice was a step back kind of day.
A lot more "poofs" than cracks.
But even that is progress. smile

Ron

I'm not trying to assume anything from your technique Ron, but I also encountered a similar issue.

I found that more conciously trying to form the loop is quite key.
I experimented a bit with the wrist movement in particular after you bring the whip up in front. As you are about to throw it out I tried a more concious flick forward with my wrist rather than my arm and found this helped produce a more pronounced crack.
I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct technique but it produced a better result to be sure.

In vino veritas

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Still too much muscle in the initial stages, but I took this clip after yesterday. (Day 3)
After forgetting about what I had seen in the movie and concentrating purely on the technique of the whip-crack I think I'm begining to get somewhere...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWB89sf … mp;index=1

In vino veritas

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If I get this whip-crack to a satisfactory level I might venture donning the fedora and busting out my freshly repaired C&C "Temple of Doom" Whip for the final video big_smile because why not? tongue

In vino veritas

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Why not, indeed, Russell? Go for it!  smile

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That's looking better Russel.
Yeah, the answer hell yeah.... Doom whip.

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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You only live once, and it's all good fun init smile

In vino veritas

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My view exactly Russell!  smile

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If you have the ability, you could play the theme in the back ground.

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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I did 10 min. this afternoon and it's reached a plateau.
It seems like it's more of a circus crack flick, with a wrist roll.
It will smooth out. smile

Ron

When you're choreographing your life, sometimes you have to dance with the music you're given.

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Ron May wrote:

If you have the ability, you could play the theme in the back ground.

Ron

Haha I have the Cairo scene music.... I might get a copyright breach but i'll give it a go...

Should be a good laugh and fun to make too!

In vino veritas

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Ron May wrote:

I did 10 min. this afternoon and it's reached a plateau.
It seems like it's more of a circus crack flick, with a wrist roll.
It will smooth out. smile

Ron

Yes that's how it feels to me too, at least from how Adam performs the Cairo Crack in his clip.

Nice work Ron smile I look forward to seeing another video smile

In vino veritas

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Sorry, Just had a closer look at the Raiders clip again wondering if maybe the second crack he does is some sort of Overhand flick? Could be wrong though. Most clips I have seen of the overhand flick are very graceful by comparison to the one Indy does.

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Russell Jones wrote:

... maybe the second crack he does is some sort of Overhand flick? ... Most clips I have seen of the overhand flick are very graceful by comparison to the one Indy does.

Russell, the more I think about this, the more sure I feel that he doesn't actually have a clue what he's doing! He's just whacking about with the whip - and I imagine Spielberg saying, 'That looks great!'  smile