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Matt, welcome to the 10/10 challenge and thank you for sharing your video !!!

The weather conditions during the last couple of days haven't been "whipcracking friendly" in my area and I had more stick "practice sessions" than I wanted to on my fast figure 8 practice.
It was hard for me to tell how much (or if) my fast figure 8 technique has improved during the last couple of days because of the stormy weather in my area (the thong got pulled sidewas by the wind quiet often) - nevertheless it's been a lot of fun practicing smile !!!

All the best
Ben

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Ben, it's raining here so it's a stick practice for me as well.

Tomorrow is the start of a new crack.

In Vol. II the next crack in sequence is the "cross over".
It has two parts to it and we will begin and learn the first part the forward crack.
Happy crackin' . smile

Ron

It's ok if you disagree with me.
I can't force you to be right.

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Matt, welcome!

Robby's DVD's are good, but not necessary to learn the cracks. It's nice to have them all in one place, and I am happy to own the set, but you should be able to find enough info here on these threads and in YouTube to learn the cracks.

To everyone:
I have been slowly going through the fast figure 8, but at this point it's mostly just me working on the second crack section. I haven't been able to practice everyday like I had hoped, and I probably will just be focusing on stick practices until I am comfortable with the movements. Hence I am probably going to be making late entries, but I am still going to try to keep up with the current routines as best I can.

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I know that we have moved onto the Forward Flick but I am still struggling a lot with the second maneuver of this crack. I feel like I'm just flailing around. Every time I watch Daren Wilkerson's and Robby's video something gets lost in the translation and my arm bends funny or the whip crosses across my body or something.

I haven't had many chances to practice due to a few things recently, but I've been working on stick practices, which help, but I'm not sure how much. Luckily the rain is supposed to be ending today and maybe I can go and see what I see tomorrow during a live practice. But this is very frustrating. Learning this is like, I imagine, learning to dance. Sometimes I think I'd be happy now just to get the motions down nice and smooth, screw the cracks.

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Tristan Foy wrote:

Sometimes I think I'd be happy now just to get the motions down nice and smooth, screw the cracks.

And that, Tristan, is the key to making progress. I've found it to be so for myself; Robby keeps saying it, to me and to lots of others - get the form right and never mind about the cracks. They will come in time....

I think this may be a real step forward for you! smile

'Less is often more!'

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I think so, too Robert, and I know others, but especially you, have pointed this out, but with all things, sometimes one needs to learn them for themselves.

But it is nice to hear the validation, as well. :-)

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Tristan, I actually believe one needs to learn everything for oneself. Other people's wisdom is always 'second hand knowledge'. However valuable it may be, we always have to make it our own to gain much benefit!

Keep at it, man! You have many years ahead of you to keep improving!

'Less is often more!'

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Tristan, Mr. Robert's right.
"If you build it they will come." (Field of Dreams)
Work on and build the form and the cracks will come when the form is right.

Ron

It's ok if you disagree with me.
I can't force you to be right.

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So, after a while of not really having time to crack at all, I went out and spent 30 minutes cracking today. One more 10 minute session and I'll be done with the first 10 days of this crack.

Today I spent most of the time just working on the back crack. Learning it has felt counter-intuitive to me, like how it felt when I was trying to play both different notes with both hands on the piano, back when I still took lessons and could play. But happily I started to made progress. As with all these cracks, I'm going to need way, way more than 10 days to get decent at them, and I will probably continue to post updates and videos, if other cracks are still willing and able to give feedback. That's one of the brilliant things about Jesse's suggestion: breaking this into sections so that we can easily find the crack we are looking for.

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Tristan, that's the importance of practicing as much as possible.
I find if I don't crack for a while I lose a lot.

Ron

It's ok if you disagree with me.
I can't force you to be right.

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Finished it today, finally. I'm no master of it, but I've been learning the movements at least, and have something real to work with. I'll be doubling up if I have time for the forward flick.

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Good job Tristan.
Keep at it.

Ron

It's ok if you disagree with me.
I can't force you to be right.

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Well I thought I would post my first attempt at my fast figure 8 10/10 challenge.
I was in a bit of a rush, I had other duties to get busy with, but I promised some video clips.
I screwed up on the 10th one. Forgive me being unable to hold back my frustration smile
I'll be trying again soon enough.

https://youtu.be/NvKBrxks16c

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Thanks for posting.
It looks good. You have been practicing. smile
Nice flow.

I usually just do one fast 8 at a time to warm up then I do multiples but usually only 4 or so at a time. It wears me out a bit.

Good job.

Ron

It's ok if you disagree with me.
I can't force you to be right.

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Thanks for the comments Ron. I'm hoping I will improve after 10 days smile

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Looks smooth, Russell smile. Can't tell from that angle how your vertical alignment is (that's my biggest problem tongue) but it looks good from the side.

'Sic Parvis Magna'

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Thank you Matt.  I should have turned to show the vertical alignment. 
I will have another attempt soon and make sure I show it.  No doubt I have things I need to brush up on!

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Don't we all mate, don't we all smile.

'Sic Parvis Magna'

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Indeed mate smile
I have to admit I was much more easily able to identify a lot of errors myself when watching my clip.
As much as I cringe watching myself on camera, it is a very useful tool to help identify and correct technical imperfections.  (In conjunction with the more esteemed whipcrackers present on this great forum)

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Russel, self correction can be the most important one.
It shows that you can recognize what you are doing incorrectly.
Being able to see and know that, shows good understanding of what you are doing and what needs to be done.
This is excellent.

Ron

It's ok if you disagree with me.
I can't force you to be right.