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Topic: What exactly is it called?

Hey all, Long time no see.
I've been mulling the question over in my head for very long time now. What exactly is our hobby called? Is it just called "whip cracking" or "the art of whip cracking" or something more specific? You know how equestrian is for horse riding and  juggling is for...well, juggling. Contact juggling, knife throwing, pie plate spinning, poi spinning, diabolo. These things all have a definitive name! I just was wondering if there was a technical term for our hobby. Please, any response would be better then me trying and stumbling all over my tongue when someone asks me "what is it that you do?" and I respond "well, whip cracking. But not like how you think. Trick whip cracking, kind of like knife throwing or etc". I end up confusing the asker and myself by simply trying to figure out an easy one word response to what it is that we do!

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Sport cracking? I'm not sure I have a sufficient answer.

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Hahahaha, I have this conversation sometimes with people.

Friend "What's in the bag?"

Me "Whips"

Friend "What?"

Me "Whips"

Friend "What?"

Me "Whips"

this goes on for a while untli I just reach into the bag and show them a whip.
After that I then go on to explain that it's a performance/sports whip and for most parts they're still none the wiser.

Maybe this is a good opportunity to coin a term .....

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I get this question veeery often. The best way to explain is that...

"I'm teaching whip cracking" Silence. Then a broad smile. "...Whip, ha...? I see..." "No, you don't. You know Zorro?" "Yes". "You know Indiana Jones?" "Yes". "Exactly that thing"." "Aaaah, I see...!"

Every single time.

I got so used to that phrase that I could tell it to you if you wake me up at 3 in the morning and yell at me: "What is whip cracking?!!"

A single word is...difficult. Simply because if people want to understand something wrong, they will get it wrong. But with Indy & Zorro dancing around in their heads, they get the point. Mostly.

Robby

I have a screwdriver. I am Legend...

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Maybe "trick cracking"... I don't know, but I. Agree, we need a name.
   Because while Indy and Zorro get the idea of what kind of whip were using, we're not exactly swinging from trees either.

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lol I like that  smile

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No "cracking" dosen't work. Especially if your trying to explain to someone (people in a park) that what your doing is legal. How do coin a term like one would in a dictionary? Using Latin or Greek root-words and some such.  Let's see...google translate has "The Sport of Whip Cracking" as "Lusus flagelli fregisset". That's a bit of a mouthful. It just seems unfair that every sport has something to name it, or an olympic sport dedicated to it. I for one would have loved to have seen target whipping during the Olympics. How do you go about submitting a new game to the Olympic committee? tongue Maybe then we'd get our official terminology.

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I also have had to...erm...explain to some people that my whips were not the kind to be used for some...uh...erotic uses. Most people I know either jump right to the conclusion that whips=hitting someone. I don't know what to think about this because the person asking usually wants to know for...their own purposes.

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whip thrower? no, to careless... I like that sonic boom sling specialist, I love the science of sound and was thinking about that audible reward, it's just so long.

whip slinger! Too spaghetti western? I mean you can whip out a pistol, but can you sling a whip? Yo i dig it, try it on; "i'm a whip slinger"

...it still doesn't encompass the various styles... that's why cracking doesn't fit, because there's so much more than just cracks; wraps/false wraps, body movement, the trajectory and curves of the whip, the energy behind it.... it's close though. My friends spin fire (that's why I picked up the whip) but they all do it different, and sometimes it's not even spun, and they use different props/toys (poi, hoop, nunchuck, sword, staff, meteor). So when I get there, I can just say I spin fire with a whip.... but until then, like fire spinning, we need something simple, without association, and awesome!

a whip savant? 
whip conductor?... too stuffy...
thong wranglin'? haha, oh dear...
i'll stop now. but seriously; whip slinger... think about it  wink

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I've heard "whip artist" which could encompass both cracking and plaiting... Whipist?  ...sounds kind of dumb, doesn't it...We could just have standardized pamphlets explaining in detail printed that we would all carry with us that could be handed out to the curious...

Yaprimascharif, Yahasanna Hadisany, elafinas tabachu, Dari chalemy elasin!

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Fritz I had to laugh as I cross the boarder up to Canada with my whip to go play and alwasy fun when the custom aganet looks it over and ask what is it..   A whip..  hmmm how does it work..  I can show you if you like..  10 min later her boss is over asking to see thewhip for a moment and then telling me to go about my bussness as it was time for them to get back to work  smile   It is a catchy Hobby..  Up in Hamilaton or north of there they have in the summer a few days called "Whips In the Park" where they offer to show anyone some whip cracking and let them play.

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I think "whip cracking" or "sport cracking" are not that bad terms, and they seem to be widely used already.

The problem is that those terms do not really translate. When I started this hobby, I had a really hard time explaining it to anyone. This is not a usual hobby in Finland, and therefore there is really no terminology at all. Imagine someone looking at your whip, pointing at the fall and asking what it is, just to hear you going "umm... well.. I really don't know what I should call that".

And that is just the whip itself. Explaining whip cracking is yet another hilariously frustrating conversation I have had several times already.

someone: "So, you made this?"

me: "Yes."

someone: "Cool! So... What do you do with it?"

me: "Well... I whip."

someone: "Oh. Needed a change in the bedroom routine?"

me: "No, these are not sex toys. In fact these are not toys at all, hitting someone with this can easily draw blood or take out an eye."

someone: "Oh, I see. So... These are just for plain torturing?"

me: "No, I don't hit people with these. That would be recklessly violent."

someone: "Ok, I see."

* moment of silence *

someone: "So... What DO you hit with these?"

me: "Nothing."

someone: "No, seriously, you don't just wave them around in the air?"

me: "I do exactly that."

* blank stare *

I am not even kidding, this happens almost every single time I try to explain my new hobby to someone. And that conversation could stretch to infinity without the convenience of having youtube available pretty much everywhere.

All this for not having a simple word for "cracking a whip in order to better master routines that are a display of coordination and/or accuracy without sex, torture or sexual torture involved".

Alas, I have already given up. Just a correctly timed "so, when was the last time you broke the sound barrier with something you made with your own hands?" is a nice way to stop a conversation that is not going anywhere smile

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I seem to remember when I was learning Finnish that if the Finns didn't have a "native" word they would borrow a foreign  word and add an "I" to the end.  I don't think it will work well for whip cracking.  Why don't you just say "Teen mulua" = "I am making noise".

Antti "Pokkis" Mäkinen wrote:

I think "whip cracking" or "sport cracking" are not that bad terms, and they seem to be widely used already.

The problem is that those terms do not really translate. When I started this hobby, I had a really hard time explaining it to anyone. This is not a usual hobby in Finland, and therefore there is really no terminology at all. Imagine someone looking at your whip, pointing at the fall and asking what it is, just to hear you going "umm... well.. I really don't know what I should call that".

And that is just the whip itself. Explaining whip cracking is yet another hilariously frustrating conversation I have had several times already.

someone: "So, you made this?"

me: "Yes."

someone: "Cool! So... What do you do with it?"

me: "Well... I whip."

someone: "Oh. Needed a change in the bedroom routine?"

me: "No, these are not sex toys. In fact these are not toys at all, hitting someone with this can easily draw blood or take out an eye."

someone: "Oh, I see. So... These are just for plain torturing?"

me: "No, I don't hit people with these. That would be recklessly violent."

someone: "Ok, I see."

* moment of silence *

someone: "So... What DO you hit with these?"

me: "Nothing."

someone: "No, seriously, you don't just wave them around in the air?"

me: "I do exactly that."

* blank stare *

I am not even kidding, this happens almost every single time I try to explain my new hobby to someone. And that conversation could stretch to infinity without the convenience of having youtube available pretty much everywhere.

All this for not having a simple word for "cracking a whip in order to better master routines that are a display of coordination and/or accuracy without sex, torture or sexual torture involved".

Alas, I have already given up. Just a correctly timed "so, when was the last time you broke the sound barrier with something you made with your own hands?" is a nice way to stop a conversation that is not going anywhere smile

Here's wishing you find time for the things you want to do, and for the things you need to do.
We see ourselves in our children and hope for a better future.

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Late to the party, sorry...Robby and I were just recently talking about this, (because I refer to him as a "Whip Artist" in the links section of my site, which he didn't quite agree with until I explained how and why I differentiate between "whip cracker" and "whip artist".  Incidently Tyler, I tend to refer to group whip makers into the "Whip Artisty" category, not only because of the high level of honed skill and and spontaneous, intuitive exploration and experimentation that great whip makers display, but also because I've never met a GOOD whip maker that wasn't a GOOD whip cracker.  I've met lots of people who were brilliant sword makers who were not good swordsmen, and excellent gunsmiths that weren't great shots...Whips aren't like that.)

Either way, I wrote a blog post over on my site that tackles just this subject.

http://mach1whips.weebly.com/1/post/201 … ge-40.html

Thanks,

All the best, and happy cracking!

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I'm beginning to like this new Daniel fella. He's bringing some thoughts to the party. And that could be dangerous! Daniel I like your term 'Whip Artist' and I guarantee, those of us that are plaiting whips are artists. Some of us at different levels, but each whip I see posted here has been a work of art. I also like your website and class name, Mach One. After all that is truly what we are achieving, no? Welcome again to the party Daniel.

~T.

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Oh, I agree that whipmaking is an amazing and illusive art.  They're whip artists to me as well...Though to differentiate, (as I tend to hold whip makers up on a higher pedestal than most whip performers,) I refer to them in my work as "Artisans:" the creators, those who make what I love to do possible. 

Pretentious as it may be, I also just like the flow of the words "Whip Artists and Artisans."  Sets them apart from the dudes just makin' noise and the guys on eBay selling rope cored whips.

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I second that, Daniel! The Whip Makers are the real artists. To crack a whip is an art form, no doubt about that. But creating a whip, out of a skin or spools of nylon/Dacron... That is the higher art.

Robby

I have a screwdriver. I am Legend...

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Daniel, if you still follow this, I really like your article.

As for me, it depends on who I'm talking to and about what.

My favorites to use are:

Whip Engineering - At work and talking about whip making.

Whip Performance - On stage and with the public.

Whip Manipulation - I use this 90% of the time because I am around Object Manipulators so often and it's a good generic term.

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Fritz Ehlers wrote:

Hahahaha, I have this conversation sometimes with people.

Friend "What's in the bag?"

Me "Whips"

Friend "What?"

Me "Whips"

Friend "What?"

Me "Whips"

this goes on for a while untli I just reach into the bag and show them a whip.
After that I then go on to explain that it's a performance/sports whip and for most parts they're still none the wiser.

Maybe this is a good opportunity to coin a term .....

How about " sonicology' being a sonicologist.

But then you would still end up with " What?".... " Ah, ... I see."

Oh, well back to the drawing board.

Yesterday I spotted an albino dalmatian.
It was the least I could do for him.

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This makes me chuckle. It is vey hard to tell someone "I am working to learn to use a whip so that it feels like an extension of my body, so that I may throw it with accuracy and ease" in one word. Especially when most people don't understand that whips exist outside of BDSM. I remember a discussion about that here a month or two ago. So frustrating.